Cone 6 Glaze Testing & Reporting

Collaborate on building an online list of well documented glaze recipes, with application and firing methods. Strong photo documentation. Only glazes that are mature at cone 6 will be included.

Testing the glazes, and identifying their problems and fixing them. Also, if there are obvious issues just by looking at a glaze recipe (like high barium, insufficient clay to suspend or harden, too much feldspar (which causes crazing), too much clay (causing crawling, peeling), hard-to-get materials, non-specific materials, etc) then it needs to be fixed as part of the testing I would say.

Tony Hansen included links below to procedures for a few glaze tests that could be done. Another good one would be to appraise the rate at which it settles, how hard is the dry layer, the water content of the slurry, the viscosity, these could be measured with commonly available tools.

Links:

Thermal shock test

Melt flow test

Glaze hardness test

Glaze leaching test

  • George Lewter

    Glaze pages are by far the most often visited and glazes are the most discussed topics on the cone6pots network. This group could logically become the centerpiece of the network, if it is well nurtured. I will participate in testing glazes with this group, but unfortunatley I do not have time to lead the group. One of you will have to get it up and running. I would suggest that you start by setting up some standards for batch recipes, test tiles, a reporting form people can print and fill out for each glaze they test. These issues should be discussed before being finalized. I would be happy to help with getting the content online if that is a challenge for you.
  • George Lewter

    Several months ago I was drooling over Otto's turquoise matte, but abandoned it when I ran it in
    Glazemaster and found it to have a theoretical co-efficient of expansion of 8.96 x10-6. That seems to be borne out by his comments on crazing. Just today I was quite excited to see Teresa Wooden's pieces glazed with Chris Clarke's Strontium Matte. But once again I find it calculates with a very high rate of thermal expansion (8.75). Looking more closely, I see the two recipes are nearly identical with variations mainly in the minor components. I'm going to go ahead and test the Chris Clarke's Strontium Matte, just because I want it so bad. The recipe comes from Alisa Clausen and the Sankey Glaze Database.

    Recipe Name: Chris Clarke Strontium Matte

    Cone: 6 Color: Bronze, Blue and Green
    Firing: Oxidation Surface: Matte

    Amount Ingredient
    1 Lithium Carbonate
    20 Strontium Carbonate
    60 Nepheline Syenite
    10 Ball Clay--Old Mine #4
    9 Silica

    100 Total


    Unity Oxide
    .047 Li2O
    .334 Na2O
    .106 K2O
    .009 MgO
    .028 CaO
    .475 SrO
    1.000 Total

    .577 Al2O3
    .003 Fe2O3

    2.973 SiO2
    .005 TiO2

    5.2 Ratio
    8.8 Exp

    Comments: All measurements measured up or down to the nearest whole decimal.
    Substitutions: None

    For Bronze, added
    5.0 Titanium ox, 5.0 Copper carb.
    =
    Resulted in a thick, matt patina green glaze, with movement and some =
    black streaking. Looks like patinaed bronze as Chris suggests. Looks =
    just like the photo in her website at www.ccpots.com Paint or dip =
    thickly for strongest greens, otherwise it is browner. Stays where =
    applied and opaque.

    For Blue and Green added
    2 Chrome oxide, 4 Cobalt Carb., 4 Rutile

    Resulted in a matt Blue and Green glaze. This glaze is interesting =
    because it is not blue/green like a teal, it changes from blue to green =
    on the surface. Very sublte changes and a smooth matt surface.

    For Graphite added
    8 Copper Carb.

    Resulted in dark grey matt where thickest, breaking a bit greener where =
    thinner. Also a smooth surface with subtle color changes from grey to =
    green grey.

    Good glazes for textured work Chris, gives a lot of play on the =
    surfaces. Thanks.

    Best regards,
    Alisa in Denmark

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    Calculations by GlazeMaster™
    www.masteringglazes.com
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  • George Lewter

    I just checked out the original recipe for Val's Turquoise and it appears to be a more stable glaze, conforming more closely to limit formulas and have a thermal expansion rate of 7.09x10-6 which is very close to my clay bodies. So I'm going to test this as well. To me this is a better place to start than with a wildly out of balance glaze that one tries to bring back to usefulness when the changes will have to be drastic enough to change the characteristic you're trying to save.

    Recipe Name: Val's Turquoise

    Cone: Color:
    Firing: Surface:

    Amount Ingredient
    35.6 Feldspar--Custer
    21.8 Gerstley Borate--1999
    27.5 Silica
    3.7 Dolomite
    11.4 Whiting

    100 Total

    Additives
    2.9 Copper Carbonate
    1 Bentonite

    Unity Oxide
    .094 Na2O
    .13 K2O
    .067 MgO
    .709 CaO
    1.000 Total

    .257 Al2O3
    .274 B2O3
    .002 Fe2O3

    3.216 SiO2

    12.5 Ratio
    7.1 Exp

    Comments:

    RESULTS - Turned out to be a pretty attractive slightly variegated turquoise with a bit of movement. Am really looking for a matte surface though. 

  • Joe Shaw

    Chris Clark's glaze starts with Pete Pinnell's Weathered Bronze recipe base. All the ingredients and colorants are the same. I use it quite a bit. I put the glaze on fairly thick. When I dip I double dip with this one. To keep it in suspension I add 2% bentonite. I can reglaze quite easily with this glaze and build up layers by spraying, heat gun and spaying until satisfied.

  • Kabe Burleson

    I thought I would pass this simple discovery on to anyone who has trouble keeping track of test glazes. I am about as organized as a junk drawer. I can get organized but how to stay that way eludes me.The affliction is know as "Illdoitlatterism". As my life move ever onward toward chaos, any attempt to slow the progress is appreciated. The pain of this affliction is made most acute with the discovery of hardened hocky pucks of glaze rattling in the bottom of some unmarked yogart containers. The first thought upon discovery? "Gee wonder what these were?". This is followed by a self inflicted lecture on how and why not to do this again and a quick analysis of my IQ level. I use yogart containers to mix test glazes. They are the perfect size for 100 grames of glazes. I mix them carefully on slow with a single beater mixer, stir in the edges that he rounded beaters can't reach and mix again. At first I wrote the name or number of the glaze on the lid but that ruined the lid for the next test and I ran out of lids for the containers. I tried putting pieces of paper on the containers, knowing that the would never get lost or relocated.  HA!What a disappointment that was. So I started using garden row markers, they look like plastic tounge depressers. Write the name on it and leave it in the container but that got to be to expensive. You had to go to a garden supply store to get them. I would pay a nickel 98 for the markers and a whole bunch for a flat of plants that I wouldn't have bought if I had just stayed away from the store. Now I write the name on the white plastic spoon and leave it. It is so simple. Now when I need to match my fired test tile with the container that birthed its color, to my great glee there it is. The right glaze hardened around the spoon that bears its name. I can rehydrate it to do more test or add it to the batch. Most the time I put the dry glaze and the marked spoon into a plastic zip-lock sandwich bag. That way when I want to do more test latter it is already made up. No more mystrey glazes plopped into the hash bucket. It is almost an embarrassment to admit to needing such a simple way to stay organized, but I bet I am not the only one. I hope this will help anyone who intends to be organized but finds they fall a bit short of the mark. Ain't clay fun, Kabe

  • Kabe Burleson

    Putting out a call. We had a member who said she new to glaze mixing. When I started it seemed a bit overwhelming. It's not that bad. If you have tips on safety, measuring, storing chemicals, how to test results, how to make test tiles, what type of scale, good deals, and all the other stuff that goes into mixing your own. Please dazzel us with your knowledge. That way we all learn. Happy Firing

  • Al Brown

    Matte green?

    I have been searching for a matte green like this for months and can't find anything. I have done a little testing with no success. Anyone have ideas or glazes that are similar?

    thanks!

  • Kabe Burleson

    Question? I have the book "The Glaze Book" by Stephen Murfitt. Nice book ,great photos. The recipes seem to jump from cone 05 to cone 9/10 with very few cone 6 recipes in between . Has any one tried to modify any of the higher temp glazes to put them in the cone 6 range? I know it can take more than just upping the flux. Just wondered if anyone has tried or if the rest of you just know better. Happy Firing

  • Joseph Fireborn


    Gearing up to start doing currie grid test! Working on a celadon for porcelain, and a black matte to go with it.

    Anyone else on here conduct currie test?

  • John McClure

    Joseph Fireborn, I see you are making a fold to press test tiles, just remember you will have the form shrink when you bisque fire and then your test tiles will also shrink. So you may want to check on the size of the mold form.  It is great fun to work on the grid for testing. I also found it easier to mark the bisque form with letters and numbers for making test tiles. John

  • John McClure

    not fold but form

  • Joseph Fireborn

    John,

    Yea my tile squares are 1.25 inches x 1.25inches. The picture might not look like it, but I am hoping after shrinking they are close to 1 inch. 

  • Bill Schannen

    Hello,

    I am new to this and have not figured out how to see the whole thread so pardon me if this is redundant or ends up on the wrong thread.


    I have done several Currie tests. Two thoughts:


    1. Test tiles. I use a plywood form to make my tiles. The raised ridges can be formed by cuts into the surface. I use WD 40 as the release. I use a rubber mallet to press the form into my slab. Bisque takes care of any oil residue.


    2. The Currie method uses equal volumes of the 4 base glazes and mixes by volume. An alternative I used was equal weights. Add approximately 100 gms (ml) of water to each 100gms of base batch. Vary as necessary; some glazes need more, some less.

    You can then do the individual tile mixtures by weight using the same ratios as the volume method. I use little plastic bathroom cups with numbers on them, a balance and I dispense the mixtures from squeeze bottles. With a little practice this can be very quick. Don’t be afraid to toss whoopses and redo if necessary.

  • Joseph Fireborn

    Bill,

    Neat ideas. I will start a currie thread as I don't want to get confused either with this being the discussions for general group. I am excited that so many people have done the currie method on cone6pots. Cause I haven't tried it yet as my mold is drying but I am excited. I have got to order some volumetric cylinders and find some cups to use for mixing.