It's inevitable that someone applies so much glaze it runs onto the shelf.

Based on this "Ceramics Daily" article I've used this kiln wash, but even with three coats of kiln wash with a firing in between glaze still needs a chisel.

http://ceramicartsdaily.org/firing-techniques/soda-firing/the-many-layers-of-kiln-wash-how-to-find-the-best-kiln-wash-for-your-firing-temperature-and-methods/

50% Alumina Hydrate (melts 3762F) $1.55 per pound or,
40% Glomax (calcined kaolin)
10% Kaolin
0.5% Darvan 811 dispersant for smooth application and defloccuation
0.1% Calcium Chloride to suspend the liquid kiln wash if it is not used immediately after adding water.

Adding more uncalcined kaolin suspends the kiln wash better but results in more cracking.

I've resorted to using a layer of alumina hydrate on top of the kiln wash. Doing this, absolutely no glaze sticks to the shelf. But a thin layer of alumina hydrate gets embedded in the glaze, leaving pieces which run with a grit embedded in the glaze where it ran. My perspective is this is the least damaging way your runny glazed piece can come out of the kiln.

What else could make a better ingredient in kiln wash?

Zirconium Oxide (melts 4919F) costs $30 per pound. (Zircopax is 91% less costly but is zirconium silicate and seems to introduce the same glaze attachment issues silica does).
www.amazon.com/Zirconium-Yttria-Stabilized-Zirconia-Powder/dp/B00CJLT0TA

Boron Nitride (melts 5383F) but costs $66 a pound. BN (which some know as bullet lubricant) is smoother than alumina hydrate. It's available in a powder in particle size, from 1 micron up to 10 micron.
http://sandblastingabrasives.com/hexagonal-boron-nitride-powder-order-page-781.html

"Warm Glass" fans use Boron Nitride as an aerosol mold release spray on stainless steel molds. But their experience seems to be that BN is only completely effective until 1800F (~^06). After this the glass may stick, because the non-melting boron nitride migrates into the glass when the glass becomes more liquid.

http://www.amazon.com/Spray-Mold-Release-new-Nitride-Brands/dp/B00ARPNIFW

Laguna Clay sells "Lee's Super Expensive Kiln Wash" with a wetting agent (aka a detergent or more likely propylene glycol which provides a syrupy flow)

Lee's kiln wash also contains a "space age ingredient". I assume this has to be something like boron nitride or zirconium oxide or something I haven't thought of. But at $30 to $66 a pound Lee's couldn't contain much of either. So maybe the "space age ingredient" is something ordinary like Darvan or something to sinter the refractory materials together.

http://www.axner.com/kiln-wash-lees-by-axner.aspx

I'm tempted to spend $40 on a gallon of Lee's kiln wash just so I have a reference to compare my kiln wash recipe with it.

The only other solution I can think of are stilts. Ceramic stilts with metal points are $3 each, not really designed for ^6 firings, and become a one-time use product if too much glaze runs.

http://www.axner.com/stilts-bead-racks-and-ceramic-rods.aspx

Ceramic stilts are not much cheaper at $1.25 each.

http://www.theceramicshop.com/store/category/9/30/Double-Point/

Does anyone have any better idea

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Comment by Robert Coyle on July 29, 2013 at 7:42am

Don't buy those anti-gravity shelves Norm. I bought a set and when I opened the kiln, all my pots crashed to the ceiling.

Comment by Norm Stuart on July 28, 2013 at 12:57pm

Thanks. We call those our bisque pancakes, but our's are 3/8" thick and your kiln loading intuition sometimes leads you to stack them two high for a 3/4" offset depending on the artist. But too much glaze can defeat this effort, welding the pancake to the bottom of the piece, and sometimes both pancake and artwork to the shelf.

The artist is still left with drips to grind off, but they don't have alumina or kiln wash embedded in the excess glaze which seems particularly offensive to some artistic sensibilities.

Set a piece like that on alumina hydrate and it easily lifts off the shelf with the long trails of glaze on the shelf attached to the offending ware, rather than the shelf. But the glaze has a sandy feel on the bottom where it incorporated the refractory alumina. But for the person operating the kiln, it was an uneventful firing.

Still those who insist on glazing the bottom of their art works have no choice other than ceramic points, because we don't currently have the funding to purchase anti-gravity shelves.

Comment by Robert Coyle on July 28, 2013 at 9:54am

I've started to make my own standoffs from 1/8" thick clay slabs. I cut them out 1/2" round with a piece of sharpened conduit. Then fire them in a pile during my next bisk fire. I put two or three of these under the pots I think might run. I insert them so that the bottom edge of the pot sticks out a little over the buttons. The glazes I use sag and sometimes pool on the bottom but never run so much that they drip. So this has allowed me to just use cheap home made kiln wash on my shelves. The standoffs can be used over and over and since they are thin, the height of the piece is not much higher like it would be with stilts.

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