Electric Reduction Is Alive & Well - Though Not Yet on Main Street - Electric Mid&Hi Fired Ceramics2024-03-28T17:08:28Zhttps://cone6pots.ning.com/forum/topics/electric-reduction-is-alive?commentId=2103784%3AComment%3A10600&feed=yes&xn_auth=noHey Terry,
That's great you…tag:cone6pots.ning.com,2011-02-20:2103784:Comment:127542011-02-20T02:22:44.841ZNicholas Friedmanhttps://cone6pots.ning.com/profile/NicholasFriedman
<p>Hey Terry,</p>
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<p>That's great you talked with Mel. I'm sure he'd be great to have on board with your project. I know from all he's done through the years with Clayart he's a treasure trove of information. Just so there's no confusion, I didn't take any offense at all to anything you said. I see you as a pioneer and respect all your doing with your project. I guess I'm just not that familiar with the format of this Ning. I've been trying for the last few minutes to approve the…</p>
<p>Hey Terry,</p>
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<p>That's great you talked with Mel. I'm sure he'd be great to have on board with your project. I know from all he's done through the years with Clayart he's a treasure trove of information. Just so there's no confusion, I didn't take any offense at all to anything you said. I see you as a pioneer and respect all your doing with your project. I guess I'm just not that familiar with the format of this Ning. I've been trying for the last few minutes to approve the friend frequest, but still can't figure the damn thing out. </p>
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<p><br/><cite>§terry fallon said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://cone6pots.ning.com/forum/topics/electric-reduction-youre?commentId=2103784%3AComment%3A12744&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2103784Comment12744"><div><p>I just had a conversation with Mel Jacobson it was quite nice to talk to someone who does a lot of reduction in electric kilns. You mention a few years ago he was tinkering around I get the impression that he is still going strong.</p>
<p>Comparing notes from the Fallonator process and form his Jacobson’s process, we fine important differences, but we both get you to the same place, a true reduction firing in a Electric Kiln.</p>
<p>Let’s change the name of this thread from “Are you kidding” to “It’s about time” </p>
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<p>terry</p>
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<p>ps I asked to be friends Nick, but have not heard back. I tried to apologize for my over the top response to you, I am trying to be as apologetic as I can.</p>
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</blockquote> I just had a conversation wit…tag:cone6pots.ning.com,2011-02-19:2103784:Comment:127442011-02-19T02:05:14.051Z§terry fallonhttps://cone6pots.ning.com/profile/terryfallon
<p>I just had a conversation with Mel Jacobson it was quite nice to talk to someone who does a lot of reduction in electric kilns. You mention a few years ago he was tinkering around I get the impression that he is still going strong.</p>
<p>Comparing notes from the Fallonator process and form his Jacobson’s process, we fine important differences, but we both get you to the same place, a true reduction firing in a Electric Kiln.</p>
<p>Let’s change the name of this thread from “Are you kidding”…</p>
<p>I just had a conversation with Mel Jacobson it was quite nice to talk to someone who does a lot of reduction in electric kilns. You mention a few years ago he was tinkering around I get the impression that he is still going strong.</p>
<p>Comparing notes from the Fallonator process and form his Jacobson’s process, we fine important differences, but we both get you to the same place, a true reduction firing in a Electric Kiln.</p>
<p>Let’s change the name of this thread from “Are you kidding” to “It’s about time” </p>
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<p>terry</p>
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<p>ps I asked to be friends Nick, but have not heard back. I tried to apologize for my over the top response to you, I am trying to be as apologetic as I can.</p>
There is a lot of informati…tag:cone6pots.ning.com,2011-02-13:2103784:Comment:119472011-02-13T03:21:18.710Z§terry fallonhttps://cone6pots.ning.com/profile/terryfallon
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">There is a lot of information on the web.</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">I do not intend to use this forum as a sales platform</p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">There is a lot of information on the web.</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">I do not intend to use this forum as a sales platform</p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">This Web Site is not under <strong>Fallonator Products TM</strong> control, but it has a lot of good information about Fallonator.com MT</p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0in;"><a target="_blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://puttgarden.com/crystal/tech/Vendors/fallon/fallon.html">http://puttgarden.com/crystal/tech/Vendors/fallon/fallon.html</a></p> Hello - very impressive resul…tag:cone6pots.ning.com,2011-02-13:2103784:Comment:115582011-02-13T01:07:36.320ZMary Janehttps://cone6pots.ning.com/profile/MaryJaneChittenden
Hello - very impressive results and an interesting way to go - either with Fallonator or with a home made variety. I am curious as to the cost of the firings themselves. How much propane is used per firing using either the barbeque tank variety or the Fallonator variety? And, very curious as to the cost of the Fallonator system. Just went to the Fallonator website and did not see any cost info. Cheers, MJ
Hello - very impressive results and an interesting way to go - either with Fallonator or with a home made variety. I am curious as to the cost of the firings themselves. How much propane is used per firing using either the barbeque tank variety or the Fallonator variety? And, very curious as to the cost of the Fallonator system. Just went to the Fallonator website and did not see any cost info. Cheers, MJ Thanks, Terry. I believe Mel…tag:cone6pots.ning.com,2011-02-08:2103784:Comment:106212011-02-08T16:30:57.000ZNicholas Friedmanhttps://cone6pots.ning.com/profile/NicholasFriedman
Thanks, Terry. I believe Mel Jacobson also did I bit of tinkering around with this some years ago. If I'm not mistaken, I think he did a few workshops along the way. John Britt invited me over to demonstrate the process a few years ago at Penland during a glaze calculation class he was teaching (I think it was the fall concentration in 2005). When we fired the kiln (my kiln) I figured, <em>"what the hell, let's make it a real experiement</em>" and we salted it as well. The firing turned…
Thanks, Terry. I believe Mel Jacobson also did I bit of tinkering around with this some years ago. If I'm not mistaken, I think he did a few workshops along the way. John Britt invited me over to demonstrate the process a few years ago at Penland during a glaze calculation class he was teaching (I think it was the fall concentration in 2005). When we fired the kiln (my kiln) I figured, <em>"what the hell, let's make it a real experiement</em>" and we salted it as well. The firing turned out extremely well (and salty). There was absolutely no damage to the elements and the only visible signs of damage to the brick was where I failed to hit the insides of some of the spy holes with ITC. Definitely, not a way I would regularly salt, but it was great to see what could be possible. Ms. Sandy
Please do not rip…tag:cone6pots.ning.com,2011-02-07:2103784:Comment:106052011-02-07T14:52:54.000Z§terry fallonhttps://cone6pots.ning.com/profile/terryfallon
<p>Ms. Sandy</p>
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<p>Please do not rip your kiln apart, you don’t live so far away that you don’t have a phone.</p>
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<p>Contact me through <a target="_blank" href="http://Fallonator.com">Fallonator.com</a> </p>
<p>A little preparation will make the difference between you being able to reassemble the kiln, and Humpdy Dumpdy fell off the wall.</p>
<p>Ms. Sandy</p>
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<p>Please do not rip your kiln apart, you don’t live so far away that you don’t have a phone.</p>
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<p>Contact me through <a target="_blank" href="http://Fallonator.com">Fallonator.com</a> </p>
<p>A little preparation will make the difference between you being able to reassemble the kiln, and Humpdy Dumpdy fell off the wall.</p> Wow I thought I left discussi…tag:cone6pots.ning.com,2011-02-07:2103784:Comment:106022011-02-07T14:32:11.000Zsandy millerhttps://cone6pots.ning.com/profile/sandymiller
Wow I thought I left discussions like this on clayart. Have to say the thing I love about most potters, is the dying need to sit down and share stuff over a beer. I love that spirit of flying by the seat of your pants and tinkering and ripping stuff apart and rebuilding it but the I grew up farming where you could fix just about anything with baling wire and duct tape.<br></br>
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I will rip my kiln apart and probably not contact anyone since I live in the middle of nowhere. Plus I'd miss the…
Wow I thought I left discussions like this on clayart. Have to say the thing I love about most potters, is the dying need to sit down and share stuff over a beer. I love that spirit of flying by the seat of your pants and tinkering and ripping stuff apart and rebuilding it but the I grew up farming where you could fix just about anything with baling wire and duct tape.<br/>
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I will rip my kiln apart and probably not contact anyone since I live in the middle of nowhere. Plus I'd miss the opportunity to work through it and figure it out.<br/>
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This discussion reminds me of the basket maker who tried to patent Nantucket baskets. She ended up the most hated woman in the circles of tried and true basket makers as it was time honored tradition passed down from the whalers. Pretty lonely in a wonderfully rich community.
Mr. Nicholas
I must comme…tag:cone6pots.ning.com,2011-02-07:2103784:Comment:106012011-02-07T13:40:50.000Z§terry fallonhttps://cone6pots.ning.com/profile/terryfallon
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<p>Mr. Nicholas</p>
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<p>I must commend you on your efforts. I have praise and commendations for you.<br></br>Your are, where I started so many years ago.</p>
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<p>The time and commitment to get past the continuous element failure, show you have perseverance. </p>
<p>To acquire the components, assemble, test, and learn how to control the reduction, must have been a proud moment for you. </p>
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<p>The kiln opening after your first successful reduction must have been an…</p>
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<p>Mr. Nicholas</p>
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<p>I must commend you on your efforts. I have praise and commendations for you.<br/>Your are, where I started so many years ago.</p>
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<p>The time and commitment to get past the continuous element failure, show you have perseverance. </p>
<p>To acquire the components, assemble, test, and learn how to control the reduction, must have been a proud moment for you. </p>
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<p>The kiln opening after your first successful reduction must have been an eye opener for you, it was a moment in time I will not forget.</p>
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<p>terry </p> Well, I'm not trying to sell…tag:cone6pots.ning.com,2011-02-07:2103784:Comment:106002011-02-07T10:25:09.000ZNicholas Friedmanhttps://cone6pots.ning.com/profile/NicholasFriedman
Well, I'm not trying to sell a product. I'm just showing people that they can have successful reduction firings with a few simple modifications to their kiln and process. If they want to attain very specific atmospheres then, of course, use of an oxyprobe would be recommended. And I kind of like making my own adjustments to the kiln (i.e. moving the damper kiln brick). I'm a big fan of manual windows for example. Automatic windows seem to make our life simpler.........until they break. I…
Well, I'm not trying to sell a product. I'm just showing people that they can have successful reduction firings with a few simple modifications to their kiln and process. If they want to attain very specific atmospheres then, of course, use of an oxyprobe would be recommended. And I kind of like making my own adjustments to the kiln (i.e. moving the damper kiln brick). I'm a big fan of manual windows for example. Automatic windows seem to make our life simpler.........until they break. I also like getting my own propane in a refillable 20 lbs. barbecue tank. I know it doesn't look fancy but I'm just a fan of taking my tank down to the hardware store and paying 80 cents a pound rather than buying a disposable camping tank for $2.99 a pound (that would get old quick). The Fallonator looks pretty cool and I wish Terry luck with it. How much does it cost? <br/> The Fallonator TM Gas-Add-On-…tag:cone6pots.ning.com,2011-02-07:2103784:Comment:105992011-02-07T03:08:17.000Z§terry fallonhttps://cone6pots.ning.com/profile/terryfallon
<p>The Fallonator TM Gas-Add-On-Kit</p>
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<p>This is a system to add the ability to add reduction atmosphere to an existing electric kiln.</p>
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<p>We supply a 100% System.</p>
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<p>No modifications are made to the kiln.</p>
<p>No holes, nothing, other than the removal of the top most peephole plug and the bottom most peephole plug. </p>
<p>No adjustments to port openings.</p>
<p>No primary air adjustments.</p>
<p>No secondary air adjustments.</p>
<p>We supply the fuel in…</p>
<p>The Fallonator TM Gas-Add-On-Kit</p>
<p> </p>
<p>This is a system to add the ability to add reduction atmosphere to an existing electric kiln.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>We supply a 100% System.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>No modifications are made to the kiln.</p>
<p>No holes, nothing, other than the removal of the top most peephole plug and the bottom most peephole plug. </p>
<p>No adjustments to port openings.</p>
<p>No primary air adjustments.</p>
<p>No secondary air adjustments.</p>
<p>We supply the fuel in one pound bottles.</p>
<p>We supply locale suppliers for you to purchase replacement fuel.</p>
<p> As low as $2.99 per pound.</p>
<p><b>We do not offer a system that uses 20 pound propane barbeque tanks.</b></p>
<p>We supply replacement O2 sensors for $70.00, New “not rebuilt” “not repaired” <br/>We do not make our O2 sensor. Our O2 sensors are made by BOSH a leader in the industry of Atmospheric Sensor.</p>