Kiln Controller Bartlett Genesis LT-3140 - Electric Mid&Hi Fired Ceramics2024-03-29T09:24:13Zhttps://cone6pots.ning.com/forum/topics/kiln-controller-bartlett-genesis-lt-3140?feed=yes&xn_auth=noNorm,
I was thinking about wh…tag:cone6pots.ning.com,2018-02-10:2103784:Comment:1478032018-02-10T21:03:50.184ZJoseph Firebornhttps://cone6pots.ning.com/profile/JosephRosenblatt
<p>Norm,</p>
<p>I was thinking about what you said, and I started thinking about relay on and off duration over the entire duration of the firing.</p>
<p>If we could record each time the elements clicked on and off per firing we could easily chart element life. Because as they clicked on and off less and less each firing, it means the elements are having to be on longer and longer. That is the statistic we really need to measure duration and quality of elements. </p>
<p>Do you think Bartlett…</p>
<p>Norm,</p>
<p>I was thinking about what you said, and I started thinking about relay on and off duration over the entire duration of the firing.</p>
<p>If we could record each time the elements clicked on and off per firing we could easily chart element life. Because as they clicked on and off less and less each firing, it means the elements are having to be on longer and longer. That is the statistic we really need to measure duration and quality of elements. </p>
<p>Do you think Bartlett could update their software and include that on the log? </p>
<p></p> Hah. That isn't the case I do…tag:cone6pots.ning.com,2018-02-10:2103784:Comment:1478022018-02-10T19:24:14.950ZJoseph Firebornhttps://cone6pots.ning.com/profile/JosephRosenblatt
<p>Hah. That isn't the case I don't think with my L&L. Last time I noticed the firings increasing by 10-15 minutes. I will find out for sure this time though. Thanks for your help. I have shared this with others who have digital controllers. It is super helpful.</p>
<p>Hah. That isn't the case I don't think with my L&L. Last time I noticed the firings increasing by 10-15 minutes. I will find out for sure this time though. Thanks for your help. I have shared this with others who have digital controllers. It is super helpful.</p> Very nice. I can't wait to se…tag:cone6pots.ning.com,2018-02-10:2103784:Comment:1478012018-02-10T19:22:57.904ZNorm Stuarthttps://cone6pots.ning.com/profile/NormStuart
<p>Very nice. I can't wait to see it over time</p>
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<p>Our Cress E-23 has power to spare to the point where the firing graph doesn't change until more than one large and one small heating element have broken. Once a third one goes, it can't get up to Cone 6.</p>
<p>Very nice. I can't wait to see it over time</p>
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<p>Our Cress E-23 has power to spare to the point where the firing graph doesn't change until more than one large and one small heating element have broken. Once a third one goes, it can't get up to Cone 6.</p> Here are my last three firin…tag:cone6pots.ning.com,2018-02-10:2103784:Comment:1481062018-02-10T15:26:36.585ZJoseph Firebornhttps://cone6pots.ning.com/profile/JosephRosenblatt
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<p>Here are my last three firings. I had a hold on one of them, but you can see how nice it is to compare. Beautiful stuff. Although I am going to increase my slow cool by another few hours I think.</p>
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<p>Here are my last three firings. I had a hold on one of them, but you can see how nice it is to compare. Beautiful stuff. Although I am going to increase my slow cool by another few hours I think.</p>
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<p><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/3127179946?profile=original" target="_self"><img src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/3127179946?profile=original" width="720" class="align-full"/></a></p> Yay! Now I can slowly add ea…tag:cone6pots.ning.com,2018-02-10:2103784:Comment:1479042018-02-10T15:10:05.547ZJoseph Firebornhttps://cone6pots.ning.com/profile/JosephRosenblatt
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<p>Yay! Now I can slowly add each firing to this graph and monitor elements through gradual time…</p>
<p><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/3127179938?profile=original" target="_self"></a><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/3127180024?profile=original" target="_self"><img src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/3127180024?profile=original" width="720" class="align-full"/></a><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/3127179938?profile=original" target="_self"><br/></a></p>
<p>Yay! Now I can slowly add each firing to this graph and monitor elements through gradual time increases.</p> Norm, the downloading from th…tag:cone6pots.ning.com,2018-02-10:2103784:Comment:1481032018-02-10T15:00:56.532ZJoseph Firebornhttps://cone6pots.ning.com/profile/JosephRosenblatt
<p>Norm, the downloading from the Kiln Connect screen seems to take forever. Is this normal in your experience?<br/><br/>Edit: Nevermind I missed that paragraph about the rate.</p>
<p>Norm, the downloading from the Kiln Connect screen seems to take forever. Is this normal in your experience?<br/><br/>Edit: Nevermind I missed that paragraph about the rate.</p> This is fantastic Norm. Thank…tag:cone6pots.ning.com,2018-01-26:2103784:Comment:1480822018-01-26T13:55:15.664ZJoseph Firebornhttps://cone6pots.ning.com/profile/JosephRosenblatt
<p>This is fantastic Norm. Thanks sir for taking the time to show me this. I want to graph all my firings and overlay them on top of each other so I can see the gradual changes in my elements. This will work perfectly for that.</p>
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<p>This is fantastic Norm. Thanks sir for taking the time to show me this. I want to graph all my firings and overlay them on top of each other so I can see the gradual changes in my elements. This will work perfectly for that.</p>
<p>Much appreciated.</p> The controller saves the prev…tag:cone6pots.ning.com,2018-01-25:2103784:Comment:1478762018-01-25T05:51:03.096ZNorm Stuarthttps://cone6pots.ning.com/profile/NormStuart
<p>The controller saves the previous <strong>ten firing logs</strong> with two files in csv format. The error log aka Event Log and the Temperature Log. (Tip: Every time you start a firing then cancel it counts as one firing, so you can quickly wipe-out your firing history this way.)</p>
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<p>Choose <strong>MENU</strong>, <strong>CONFIGURATION</strong>, <strong>EXPORT LOG FILE</strong></p>
<p>This will set-up the server mode and will tell you the current IP address of your kiln and the…</p>
<p>The controller saves the previous <strong>ten firing logs</strong> with two files in csv format. The error log aka Event Log and the Temperature Log. (Tip: Every time you start a firing then cancel it counts as one firing, so you can quickly wipe-out your firing history this way.)</p>
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<p>Choose <strong>MENU</strong>, <strong>CONFIGURATION</strong>, <strong>EXPORT LOG FILE</strong></p>
<p>This will set-up the server mode and will tell you the current IP address of your kiln and the current four digit code to enter.</p>
<p>Use Chrome (not Firefox) to connect to the IP number.</p>
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<p><strong><em>Your laptop or phone has to be connected to the same WiFi router / aka same local network as the kiln</em></strong>.</p>
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<p>In the screen grab below, the IP number was <strong>192.168.1.24/index</strong> and the Code was 4092</p>
<p>Type the IP number/index and enter. (Don't forget to add <strong>/index</strong> as I first did) You'll be prompted to enter the four digit code, then enter and you'll get this list of log files to click on to download <strong>one at a time</strong>.</p>
<p>Chrome is smart and takes the server response into account and it will not let you start a new download of the next file until the first download is finished after 15 seconds or so. Unfortunately Firefox allows you to start another download right away, jamming-up the Genesis server and you have to restart the process. Big temperature logs can take a minute to download because the baud rate of the log server is quite low.</p>
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<p>The Genesis <strong>does not</strong> save the Date and Time when you shut it off. It updates this from the WiFi each time you turn it on. In the logs below you can see we had WiFi available only once when we turned on the kiln, so only one of the firings has a date.</p>
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<p>Open these files with Excel or similar spreadsheet program. If you want to mark them up and change them, same them in Excel format.</p>
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<p><br/> <cite>Joseph Fireborn said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://cone6pots.ning.com/forum/topics/kiln-controller-bartlett-genesis-lt-3140?xg_source=activity&id=2103784%3ATopic%3A144378&page=3#2103784Comment147875"><div><p>Ah nice! I didn't know we could get the log from our controller. I want to keep track of my firings and overlay graphs to monitor my elements. Thanks for that tip. Glad you got it working.</p>
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</blockquote> Ah nice! I didn't know we cou…tag:cone6pots.ning.com,2018-01-25:2103784:Comment:1478752018-01-25T03:05:18.482ZJoseph Firebornhttps://cone6pots.ning.com/profile/JosephRosenblatt
<p>Ah nice! I didn't know we could get the log from our controller. I want to keep track of my firings and overlay graphs to monitor my elements. Thanks for that tip. Glad you got it working.</p>
<p>Ah nice! I didn't know we could get the log from our controller. I want to keep track of my firings and overlay graphs to monitor my elements. Thanks for that tip. Glad you got it working.</p> Thanks for the heads-up Josep…tag:cone6pots.ning.com,2018-01-25:2103784:Comment:1479922018-01-25T03:03:26.998ZNorm Stuarthttps://cone6pots.ning.com/profile/NormStuart
<p>Thanks for the heads-up Joseph. I signed up for a User ID and password on the Bartlett website and tried out the remote kiln monitoring.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.bartinst.com/users/login" target="_blank">https://www.bartinst.com/users/login</a></p>
<p>MollysKilnApp has indeed been renanmed <strong>Bartlett KilnAid</strong>. which is a more logical name. Once my email address was confirmed, registering our kiln serial number and MAC address was easy. It appear multiple studio members can…</p>
<p>Thanks for the heads-up Joseph. I signed up for a User ID and password on the Bartlett website and tried out the remote kiln monitoring.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.bartinst.com/users/login" target="_blank">https://www.bartinst.com/users/login</a></p>
<p>MollysKilnApp has indeed been renanmed <strong>Bartlett KilnAid</strong>. which is a more logical name. Once my email address was confirmed, registering our kiln serial number and MAC address was easy. It appear multiple studio members can be connected to the same kiln with different user IDs, although we didn't test that out.</p>
<p>Using the signin website above in a web browser provides more firing information than the phone app does - such as all three zones.</p>
<p>If you want the firing log you still need to download those directly from your kiln. Pretty nifty if we had WiFi at our studio.</p>
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<p>To test it out I used my husband's phone as a hotspot to connect the kiln to the internet and I used my phone to connect to the Bartlett website and the Phone App. We just have to convince one of the nearby businesses to let our kiln logon to their guest network.</p>
<p><br/> <br/> <cite>Joseph Fireborn said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://cone6pots.ning.com/forum/topics/kiln-controller-bartlett-genesis-lt-3140?commentId=2103784%3AComment%3A148080&xg_source=activity#2103784Comment148080"><div><p>Okay. I got mine working. I didn't use the Mollys App. There is a new app called Bartlett Kiln Aid.</p>
<p>I downloaded it, but I couldn't add my kiln from the phone application. So I went to bartlett's website and setup an account then add my kiln on the website. This then synced with my phone. I am now monitoring my firing via phone. Still needs a lot of features though.</p>
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